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Capítulo 1: Project Horizon overview

0:055 segundosWelcome back everybody. We now move into the panel and the Q&A portion. Let's

0:1313 segundosbring our guests onto the stage. Michael and JP, welcome back, guys.

0:2424 segundosHow you guys doing? It's good to be back.

0:2828 segundosAll right. Wow, both of you just opened up a lot of issues to describe. So, I want to start off with uh JP cuz uh you

0:3737 segundosyou brought up something that I hadn't realized and and that is the importance of Project Horizon to all of this

0:4646 segundosbecause Project Horizon as you pointed out was associated with the Army Ballistic Missile Agency ABMA and what I

0:5656 segundosdidn't realize was that Vera von Brawn was the actual director of the ABMA.

1:031 minuto e 3 segundosduring the time that this project horizon was proposed and Green Mountain

1:111 minuto e 11 segundoswas underway. I mean the construction and the operations there were underway by the time project horizon was being

1:181 minuto e 18 segundosbuilt. So that what that brought my what that raised to me was that uh the Germans under von got

1:281 minuto e 28 segundosuh got NASA and the US uh ABMA to build lunar operations command that project

1:371 minuto e 37 segundoshorizon was the cover for building lunar operations command which was handed off to the Germans so and the dark fleet. So

1:441 minuto e 44 segundoswhat do you say to that? Army Ballistic Missile Agency. Uh um what they told me, like I said

1:531 minuto e 53 segundosbefore, was that they built the base similar to what were they going to build

1:591 minuto e 59 segundosat the moon. So what they built in the moon with Project Horizon is the same thing what they built in this location

2:072 minutos e 7 segundoswhere I went where the pilots were being trained. So it looked exactly the same but like in massive scales.

2:152 minutos e 15 segundosSo they had to build it here first prior of building it over there at the moon

2:222 minutos e 22 segundosthat they kept going. They actually did not close down this project. this project kept going into the um it what

2:322 minutos e 32 segundosthey they gave the paper outs March 30th 1959 and during that same time you had that AMF company what is it called

2:412 minutos e 41 segundosAmerican Machine and Fundry company that's what it's called and and and

2:482 minutos e 48 segundosthat's a separate um a it's a separate how can I put this a company

2:562 minutos e 56 segundosthat the ballistic missile agency used to help them build these locations.

3:083 minutos e 8 segundosOkay. Uh I don't know it does tie with the moon because these Nordics that

3:153 minutos e 15 segundostrain these pilots, they also have these bases on the moon that is part I think of still of project horizon.

3:273 minutos e 27 segundosAnd it's very interesting. Another aspect to this is that the president of

3:353 minutos e 35 segundosuh the AMF American machine and foundry was this uh

3:423 minutos e 42 segundosFrank White who was associated with the Marshall program where they were funneling all this money into Germany to

3:503 minutos e 50 segundosrebuild uh Germany. And so you can imagine that some of that money was also being

3:573 minutos e 57 segundossiphoned off into this uh operation out of ABMA and uh and AMF

4:064 minutos e 6 segundosto build a base on the moon that was the replica of what AMF built under Green

4:144 minutos e 14 segundosMountain and on top of this Dr. Sala, AMF and ABMA is also connected to Antarctica. If

4:234 minutos e 23 segundosyou dig really into it on these facilities that they also built in Antarctica, that's connected to military

4:304 minutos e 30 segundosbases of other nations and uh the United States of America that also connects

4:364 minutos e 36 segundoswith the Germans and and all that. So they use these companies to build these facilities and like I said it's

4:454 minutos e 45 segundosconnected to other facilities throughout the United States that connects also to Eglund Air Force Base and it branches

4:524 minutos e 52 segundosout like a spiderweb these facilities and people can live there for years and nobody would know people will live there similar to how people are living on the

4:594 minutos e 59 segundosmoon and nobody knows they're living there on the moon. So, uh I think

5:065 minutos e 6 segundosthere's a lot of people that are working there in secret and they create families and they train their family

5:145 minutos e 14 segundosmembers to keep working on what they and they live normal lives like if no nothing they know about earth but they know it as a a place and you know and

5:235 minutos e 23 segundosthey they live their own life. They they they go to school there. They they live there. They got like projects that people live there. They got their own

5:315 minutos e 31 segundosdoctors. They got It's like a whole new world. And people and I I assume that that's the same thing that's happening with Mars with the breakaway people that

5:405 minutos e 40 segundoslive in Mars. They live under Mars and they live really comfortable and they don't have to ask questions. They they

5:475 minutos e 47 segundosthey tell them how to live. They tell them how to act. They tell them how everything is. They tell them that Earth is destroyed and that you're here now

5:555 minutos e 55 segundosand that we are the survivors. Um, they tell this to these people also that live in space, you know, and it it goes on

6:026 minutos e 2 segundosand some people do know, the higherups, they do know what's going on. They know that people still live on Earth. They know these projects kept going. And

6:116 minutos e 11 segundosthat's that that's the thing that they don't want people to know. And that's going to be part of why presidents when

6:196 minutos e 19 segundosthey hear about disclosure, they start crying. like Carter, he started crying like because this could hurt so much the

6:276 minutos e 27 segundosUnited States and and to releasing this this technology that he just cried because he can't believe that this was

6:356 minutos e 35 segundosgoing on and there was wasn't recognizing that this in the future this

6:426 minutos e 42 segundoscan destroy everything what we believe in what we believe in and how to drop something that is going to destroy

6:496 minutos e 49 segundoseverything that you ever created that the forefather creating in this country.

6:546 minutos e 54 segundosYou know, you release something and but you have to release it in a certain way that can

7:027 minutos e 2 segundosthat can be okay, that's why we did this. Oh, okay. That's why we did this.

7:087 minutos e 8 segundosThey're trying to make it in a way that to make it seem like that's why we did this. for the protection of our of our

7:167 minutos e 16 segundoscountry, for the protection of this world, for the protection for the other beings that are interacting with us. It's not just us we have to worry about. We have

7:247 minutos e 24 segundosto worry about the people that live in our oceans. We have to worry about um everybody that is living within every different people. Um

7:337 minutos e 33 segundosyeah, worry about the ETSs as well, you know. What can this bring to them? you know, if all nations get together and

7:417 minutos e 41 segundosstarts a war with them, you know, uh what can this lead to? That's why we're doing disclosure the way we're doing it.

7:507 minutos e 50 segundosAnd it's weird, but it's it's it's happening. It's happening now. And this information is going to come out. And

7:587 minutos e 58 segundoswhen you have soldiers that are like me that are coming out with this information that they're already coming out and they're connecting with Dr. Phil

8:068 minutos e 6 segundosnow out of nowhere, Dr. fills filling in becoming a doctor now a doctor of UFOs

8:138 minutos e 13 segundos[laughter]

8:138 minutos e 13 segundosout of nowhere you know um when Dr.

8:188 minutos e 18 segundosSalah has been talking about this for decades, you know. Uh it's it's just

8:258 minutos e 25 segundosmind-blowing how they're trying to bring this out right now. And I hope they try not to hide anything because [clears throat]

8:338 minutos e 33 segundoswe have proof. We have videos, we have pictures, and it's not only the things that we have. We have more stuff behind

8:408 minutos e 40 segundosthe scenes that we can share. And people people have to buckle up because a lot of things are going to come out that is

8:498 minutos e 49 segundosgoing to scare a lot of people. It's not only this. It's it's it's going to be it's going to be a fear that people are going to feel with these technologies

8:578 minutos e 57 segundoscome out and what bad people can do with these technologies that is going to make people sicken to their stomach

9:059 minutos e 5 segundoswhen they find out the things that they can do with these technologies. And that's what's scary as well. And I'm not trying to bring fear porn. No, no, no, no. I'm not trying to bring fear.

9:159 minutos e 15 segundosIt's It's scary. It is. It's scary stuff. It can be.

9:229 minutos e 22 segundosUh, Michael, one of the things I raised in my presentation that I wanted to get your feedback on was what uh, George

Capítulo 2: Green Mountain significance

9:309 minutos e 30 segundosKasilus had to say about Green Mountain being this energy center or very sacred

9:379 minutos e 37 segundosto the native peoples and that there is a I guess a consciousness or a portal or

9:459 minutos e 45 segundosa energy associated with that mountain that makes it easier to integrate consciousness. with technology, which I hadn't heard before. But what what do

9:549 minutos e 54 segundosyou think of that? That maybe Green Mountain makes it possible for this study of consciousness and technology easier to do than anywhere else.

10:0510 minutos e 5 segundosYou know, I think that that was very interesting because there's a a Cherokee reservation just on the east side of Green Mountain that I mean, you can't

10:1310 minutos e 13 segundoseven see it on the map. If if you look at the older maps, you could see it. But if you were to look at uh Google Maps or something like that, it doesn't say

10:2110 minutos e 21 segundosanything about a reservation being there. You have to you have to look at the reservation maps to actually see that there's a reservation there. And

10:2910 minutos e 29 segundosthere's lay lines that intersect right there at the mountain, which I find interesting. Also, there's a lot of

10:3710 minutos e 37 segundosreports from I don't know if if if anybody's ever heard of the Cherokee Moonnight people or the Cherokee Little

10:4410 minutos e 44 segundospeople that were supposedly uh inhabited the underground of North Alabama, North

10:5110 minutos e 51 segundosGeorgia, East Tennessee, even into um West Virginia

10:5710 minutos e 57 segundosand uh western North Carolina where the these beings that they that they called the the mooneyeyed people because they

11:0611 minutos e 6 segundoslived underground and they could only come out at night because the sun was so um their eyes were so sensitive to the

11:1511 minutos e 15 segundossun that they could only come out at night time. The Cherokee actually fought a war.

11:1811 minutos e 18 segundosWhat's the name? What's the name of those people?

11:2011 minutos e 20 segundosIt's a moeyed people. I I believe it's I believe it was a is an ant people race that live that lived under that area.

11:2811 minutos e 28 segundosThere's there's a I mean there's there's monuments dedicated to the war that they had with these with these individuals.

11:3411 minutos e 34 segundosThere's statues of them that they found in Georgia. Very interesting. Very interesting.

Capítulo 3: Missing persons and facilities

11:4311 minutos e 43 segundosJP, you mentioned the the lifelike dolls that can be used for

11:5211 minutos e 52 segundoswell, I guess faking a person's death or being able to disappear them so that

12:0012 minutosthat person is then used in a classified program. So, with all of these missing scientists, I mean, I think there's a

12:0812 minutos e 8 segundosdozen or more now. You know, Amy Esgridge, I don't think, well, she's not quite a missing scientist cuz, you know,

12:1512 minutos e 15 segundosshe allegedly killed herself, but now [snorts] we know that it's possible that you can fake a person's death by having

12:2312 minutos e 23 segundosthese lifelike dolls. So, yeah. I mean, is it I mean, just how prevalent is that these lifelike dolls or or could they use clones to fake a person's death?

12:3612 minutos e 36 segundosUm, these dolls look so real, Doc. Um when you and they they like if you put

12:4412 minutos e 44 segundosone in a sarcophagus or a if you put one like in a funeral home and you you can have an artist copy

12:5512 minutos e 55 segundosa person's body person's face like we we we can take your face and build a doll

13:0313 minutos e 3 segundoswith closed eyes inside this coffin and make it look just like you. with the hairs, everything. Look, go like, for example, go go go to the the wax museum.

13:1413 minutos e 14 segundosGo to a wax museum in Orlando, Florida, and look at these wax figures. How how realistic they look. Uh, and it's not

13:2213 minutos e 22 segundoswax. It's like a a material that it looks like a

13:2913 minutos e 29 segundossomething that is is is not alive, you know. And they and they have companies that they do that. And look at the

13:3613 minutos e 36 segundosmovies. Look at the movies when they use these special effects. It's out there.

13:4013 minutos e 40 segundosThis technology is out there. People need to understand that they need to do more research when we when you lose a loved one. I made sure my aunt was was

13:4913 minutos e 49 segundosthere. You know, I we did all the research. I told my family and all that.

13:5313 minutos e 53 segundosYeah. Just make sure that's the real deal because on top of that, they could do so some

14:0114 minutos e 1 segundosome other things, you know. But uh Oh, I'm not saying that people are alive. I'm not saying

14:0914 minutos e 9 segundosthat people Yeah, people do die. Don't get me wrong. People do pass, you know, when you see somebody getting killed in

14:1614 minutos e 16 segundosfront of you, you know. Um I I've seen weird things in my life, you know, going

14:2314 minutos e 23 segundosthrough these missions, you know, and and it's sad, you know, I've been to different places

14:3114 minutos e 31 segundosand it's tough. Uh but you you you know when somebody goes they go you know uh

14:3814 minutos e 38 segundosbut these companies are out there doc and people need to realize that and I'm not I'm not getting into um

14:4714 minutos e 47 segundosyou know I I I I respect you um Michael of what you've been through or or who

14:5314 minutos e 53 segundosyou talk to you know and and you that's your experience nobody can take that away from your experience or what you

15:0115 minutos e 1 segundowent through you you know, and there's a lot of people that have been through similar experiences and they don't want to even talk about it. So, you're

15:0915 minutos e 9 segundostalking about it. So, that's you, you know, but I'm not saying that it could be impossible what you went through. All

15:1815 minutos e 18 segundosright? What you went through, it could happen. You know, you could be talking to a person that was this, you know, that the media says it was deceased and

15:2715 minutos e 27 segundosyes, they're probably still alive. you know, if you went through that um and

15:3415 minutos e 34 segundosyou have the proof, hey, that's why you you you give out this information because you want this information. They

15:4215 minutos e 42 segundoswant this information to come out. Um me, I can't personally say I I I met the

15:4915 minutos e 49 segundosperson that you said. Um, but I did see inside the facility people working there that I couldn't see their face, but they

15:5615 minutos e 56 segundoswere behind this place that they were walking up and down. And I I can confirm that um in this facility where I saw the

16:0516 minutos e 5 segundosNordics training the pilots, there is people there that have been there for a long time and they're no more seen in in society. Okay.

16:1816 minutos e 18 segundosuh and they're gifted people that have a lot of knowledge in technology and and certain things. Okay. So, it it could be

16:2716 minutos e 27 segundosuh possible that there is people there that are probably no longer with us, but they're still there working and giving

16:3616 minutos e 36 segundostheir time for humanity or trying to help humanity out um with these new technology that they're building with the Nordics.

16:4616 minutos e 46 segundosSo, but me I I I just for now I can't get into um talking as much about Green

16:5616 minutos e 56 segundosMountain. But yes, I went to a facility in Huntsville, Alabama that it's there,

17:0417 minutos e 4 segundosyou know, around there and yeah, it's uh it's a place that is

17:1117 minutos e 11 segundosI guess yeah, that's I I believe that there's a lot of missing scientists under Green Mountain, not just one.

17:2317 minutos e 23 segundosMaybe it's not just scientists, you know.

17:2517 minutos e 25 segundosYeah. missing every missing a lot of people. You're right.

17:2817 minutos e 28 segundosYou got you got soldiers, you got uh you got civilians,

17:3517 minutos e 35 segundosyou got doctors, you got remember, it's whole world under there. And it's not just Green Mountain. And I'm not saying

17:4417 minutos e 44 segundosit's Green Mountain. I'm saying that it's there's a lot of places around the world inside of our oceans. There's

17:5117 minutos e 51 segundosplaces there in somewhere in in in South America.

17:5717 minutos e 57 segundosThere's places. Um it's not just in Alabama. Okay. But yes, Alabama is hot the hottest spot right now. They just

18:0518 minutos e 5 segundosmove um Space Command there. It is the hottest spot. So if there were a place um that people would go, it would be

18:1418 minutos e 14 segundosthere where these companies, these agencies are um that it

18:2318 minutos e 23 segundoswould be okay. And and what I saw was it was so nuts. It was it was the

18:3118 minutos e 31 segundostechnology, the Nordics, the the security, the how you have to enter a certain way into these facilities or

18:4018 minutos e 40 segundosnot. They they'll shoot you, doc. They they'll they'll get rid of you if you just slightly go two or three feet away.

18:4918 minutos e 49 segundosThese machines were would would knock you out. So you really have to enter

18:5518 minutos e 55 segundoslike like okay they tell you what to do in order to enter to these facilities when you

19:0319 minutos e 3 segundosonce you enter you yeah you you're you're looking around you're like holy crap what's going on here you know and

19:1219 minutos e 12 segundoslike I said before I don't know why I was told to tell you this information but I got the green light from this person that works in Washington DC and

19:2019 minutos e 20 segundosit's not that um I'm being you know handled or but but they know the connection I have with the Nordics.

19:3019 minutos e 30 segundosThey know and other people have connection with these Nordics as well.

19:3319 minutos e 33 segundosBut they know the that these Nordics they visit me here where I live and I took you where they visit me and I took

19:4119 minutos e 41 segundosyou the location where this guy gives me the green light by the ocean by you know inside the base. I took you inside the

19:4819 minutos e 48 segundosbase now because of what's happening right now. It's really hard to get people inside the base uh into Eglund.

19:5619 minutos e 56 segundosIt's hard because of what's happened, the war, you know, and now it's

20:0220 minutos e 2 segundosI even got a hard time bringing uh Eisenhower inside almost before the

20:0920 minutos e 9 segundoseverything started. So once they saw her last name, she was like, "Okay, let's go in." And that's when I called you that

20:1620 minutos e 16 segundosday that we were um with Eisenhower inside the base and I was showing her around and I took her to the same spot where the I get the green light and all

20:2520 minutos e 25 segundosthat. And it's kind of funny because I was talking with David Adair and we had a great time and David says,

20:3220 minutos e 32 segundos"Uh, they're trying to get rid of me." I said, "David, don't say that. They're not trying to get rid of me." And he he

20:4020 minutos e 40 segundoswas like, "JP, if they disappear me, I don't know." Like he was talking like in codes like

20:4820 minutos e 48 segundosthat. And I'm I'm I'm really Oh, David, don't don't talk like that because you have a lot of knowledge of space stuff.

20:5620 minutos e 56 segundosYou know, you you are one of the last ones that is still alive. You know, he was like in the in the era of Clifford Stone, right? And who else? Um um this

21:0421 minutos e 4 segundoslady, she's 80 years old. He he was part of that group that knew this information and was one of the first ones that you

21:1121 minutos e 11 segundosknow was bringing this information out you know most of them are gone you know so

21:1921 minutos e 19 segundoshe was just and there's a lot of people out there that are scared that I'm talking to that are out there giving information doc and

21:2821 minutos e 28 segundosit's yeah okay well let me uh jump over to Michael and ask him a couple of questions In

Capítulo 4: Consciousness and technology

21:3521 minutos e 35 segundosyour presentation, Michael, you you had a cutaway that showed the entry and exit for craft leaving the

21:4521 minutos e 45 segundosspaceport being underneath a lake. Now, that's the lake on Green Mountain, I I assume. So,

21:5421 minutos e 54 segundoswas that cutaway on the uh thumb drive that you were given

22:0122 minutos e 1 segundoor was that your cut? The cutaway. The cutaway was the uh the mountain around it was not. I I I see. I see.

22:1222 minutos e 12 segundosIt wasn't It wasn't specifically mentioned on the thumb drive that they go up and down out of the lake. Is that if that's what you're asking?

22:1822 minutos e 18 segundosI I'm assuming it was, but but yeah, that's But the

22:2522 minutos e 25 segundoscutaway was on the thumb drive and it showed an entry and exit from from the top. mountain.

22:3422 minutos e 34 segundosSo, you know, we know that that's that's a residential area and, you know, I guess they have a little bit of kind of greenery up there, but the lake would

22:4222 minutos e 42 segundoswould be a logical place where they could do something like that where craft could enter and leave obviously by shifting frequency. You know, the the

22:5122 minutos e 51 segundosfunny thing about that is if you look at the video where me and you are actually standing at that lake, you can see in the video that it literally looks like a hologram behind us.

23:0323 minutos e 3 segundosSo, you got to wonder how much of that on the video is actually real.

23:0823 minutos e 8 segundosOkay. Okay. The the the other thing that I wanted to ask was in your presentation you talked about the eighth force and

23:1723 minutos e 17 segundosyou talked about the queen of England and how it's possible that the that's an ancient consciousness which is being just transferred between different

23:2523 minutos e 25 segundosbodies and it made me think of the movie the the original Stargate movie with

23:3223 minutos e 32 segundosKurt Russell where the alien god that was the you know the chief protagonist

23:3823 minutos e 38 segundosthere literally chose a new vehicle to move his consciousness into. So,

23:4523 minutos e 45 segundosI mean, it it sounded like, yeah, that Stargate movie was depicting what really does happen, especially when it comes to these ruling families.

23:5623 minutos e 56 segundosI believe they have to show us, right? I mean, they My my wife and I were watching a movie the other day with the Cor Corey Hay and

24:0524 minutos e 5 segundosCorey Feldman in it. It's called um It's called uh Oh my goodness. Uh oh my god,

24:1424 minutos e 14 segundosI'm having such a space out on it. But it's with this old guy and Corey Felman Switch bodies. Dream a little dream.

24:2024 minutos e 20 segundosDream a little dream is what it's called where the old man is literally meditating and doing a special meditation and then his consciousness is transferred with the with Corey Feldman.

24:3124 minutos e 31 segundosAnd this movie was made in the 80s.

24:3424 minutos e 34 segundosThey're literally showing us the eighth force and that's in the 80s because they have to they have to show us. They have to show us.

24:4124 minutos e 41 segundosWell, I I have experience these beds in Eggland that can transfer um consciousness and they can transfer

24:4924 minutos e 49 segundosconsciousness on biologic machines or switch consciousness like Avatar the Avatar pro program um to different

24:5824 minutos e 58 segundospeople. So uh when I saw also disclosure day and I saw that people hold a device and with this device you can transfer

25:0725 minutos e 7 segundosa a consciousness to another person. I was like man that's that's that's real that can that I thought that was such a joke how they actually had them holding those stupid

25:1525 minutos e 15 segundosthings like they would need those. They don't need those at all.

25:1825 minutos e 18 segundosNo. Uh they can they can just do it.

25:2225 minutos e 22 segundosYeah. If they're strong enough um they have this um you could be trained. I I'm actually um

25:3025 minutos e 30 segundosthere's a female that she's training me how to use um she's from the base and how to to manipulate um the clouds or

25:3925 minutos e 39 segundoshow to um like like using how you call it techni

25:4725 minutos e 47 segundoste um it's like a technique that you use but you can also with this technique

25:5425 minutos e 54 segundosit's like a telekinesis but uh is it is using the same thing to call the ships down. You can go I I I can call ships

26:0326 minutos e 3 segundosdown sometimes on demand on where I live. It's telepathy.

26:0926 minutos e 9 segundosSo you they they it's like they know the frequency. They can feed off the frequency that you you're you're pushing out to the

26:1826 minutos e 18 segundosuniverse and that frequency they can read it and they can get close to you because of that frequency that you are

26:2626 minutos e 26 segundosthinking of like that you have to think about it. It's like a frequency that everybody has that they know how to read and it it's amazing the technique

26:3626 minutos e 36 segundosyou know I believe I believe we can go there. The problem is is you know look at all the pharmaceuticals they feed us.

26:4226 minutos e 42 segundosLook at all the the fluoride in the water. Look at all the look at all the crap they're spraying in the air. I mean, we can do this stuff. It's it's

26:5026 minutos e 50 segundosjust they've suppressed our they've suppressed our mind, you know, our abilities with all these chemicals, you know, that I'm sure that they've

26:5826 minutos e 58 segundosresearched and they know exactly what they're doing.

27:0327 minutos e 3 segundosYeah, it's uh and I know yeah, everybody have these abilities and all that to to

27:1127 minutos e 11 segundosdo that, but um if it's if it's a facility um goes under this lake, right, it it

27:1827 minutos e 18 segundoscould make sense uh how these ships can move inside the water as well. Like I

27:2427 minutos e 24 segundosshowed you how when these ships come out and they have this form right here, it can cut through butter like into the water and also into the air.

27:3727 minutos e 37 segundosAnd when they went up these ships, uh, it goes through this rock. I don't know

27:4427 minutos e 44 segundoswhat's on the top of this big mountain that we're in. It's this is

27:5127 minutos e 51 segundoshuge. It's just this huge facility that you can look

27:5827 minutos e 58 segundosmaybe like you can you can look so far down that in the distance you can see like a fog. That's how big these

28:0628 minutos e 6 segundosfacilities are. It's huge. And it there has to be more people involved in this.

28:1328 minutos e 13 segundosIt's like so many people involved in these projects and and the way they keep it on a hush. Oh, it's for the security of this nation. you can't talk can't

28:2228 minutos e 22 segundostalk nothing about this because it's going to endanger everybody in this nation.

28:2728 minutos e 27 segundosSo yeah, it's it's it's a lot that and it's a lot it's a lot selfishness too.

28:3428 minutos e 34 segundosUh yeah, the people with the tech, they want to keep it for themselves.

Capítulo 5: Corporate power in space

28:4128 minutos e 41 segundosWell, yeah, that kind of raises a very interesting question and and that is the influence of the of the corporations and

28:5028 minutos e 50 segundoshow they kind of like monopolize this advanced technology that was given to them by the military in these crash

28:5928 minutos e 59 segundosretrieval operations. Of course, funded by the US taxpayer corporations get them. They develop these agreements.

29:0829 minutos e 8 segundosThey're called IRADS, independent research and development agreements. And and the property, the intellectual property belongs now to the corporation

29:1629 minutos e 16 segundoseven though the technology was retrieved by US government or military.

29:2129 minutos e 21 segundosAnd so now like all that knowledge goes into the hands of corporations and they develop more and more power that they

29:2829 minutos e 28 segundosuse to control the situation and and it kind of brought to mind this um movie this time travel actually you know it

29:3629 minutos e 36 segundoswas a TV series called Millennium I don't know if you've seen it but it was was about this time travel uh from the

29:4329 minutos e 43 segundosfuture a future cop who comes back and she's been sent back and in the future uh the US Congress has been replaced by

29:5229 minutos e 52 segundosa corporate congress where people aren't represented. It's uh different congresses and corporations are

29:5929 minutos e 59 segundosrepresented and they rule uh the planet and so it's like okay well that kind of you know they do now they just bought all the politicians.

30:0930 minutos e 9 segundosYeah. Yeah. So so yeah what do you say to that about um this growing influence of corporations? Is is this a hara

30:1730 minutos e 17 segundosbinger of what what the future lies if we don't have full disclosure?

30:2530 minutos e 25 segundosUm with the pictures with the pictures that I saw um for the first time I told you. Yeah, I I told you this. I saw

30:3330 minutos e 33 segundospictures on the wall and I didn't tell you who it was. I I saw Elon Musk. I saw Zuckerberg. I saw other presidents. I

30:4030 minutos e 40 segundoscan't say the words yet their their names. And I saw other people like uh involved that are high up there as well.

30:4830 minutos e 48 segundosWell well with science and that has to do with with TV and and also like

30:5530 minutos e 55 segundosconnections with high people that have big big shows as well. So when I saw

31:0231 minutos e 2 segundosthat I was like why why are they involved? Who why would Elon picture be here? Is he involved or they there's

31:1131 minutos e 11 segundossomething that has to do with Space X with the Nordics? What's going on? Um communication with with Zuckerberg. What

31:1931 minutos e 19 segundosis this going on with with consciousness or you know uh and I saw a total of

31:2731 minutos e 27 segundoseight pictures there when you first enter and that they only do that in military facilities sometimes. You know, when you enter into the military

31:3531 minutos e 35 segundosposition, you see the the structure of the president, vice president, and then you see you have the general's pictures and then you have other pictures. You go

31:4331 minutos e 43 segundosto the VA, that's the first thing you enter. You see the pictures of the president and who's in charge of this facility, who's who's in charge of this

31:5231 minutos e 52 segundosunit, and then it goes on like that. And I saw that in that facility. And this

32:0032 minutosfacility felt old. It felt I I like I said before, I think it was built on

32:0732 minutos e 7 segundossomething that was already there, a technology that was already there.

32:1232 minutos e 12 segundosSomebody else built this tunnel structure and we just transformed it into a

32:2132 minutos e 21 segundosa facility that now everybody works out of. So, I don't know if it's the energy

32:2732 minutos e 27 segundosthat is there like that interview you had with with what's his name? Um,

32:3432 minutos e 34 segundosthere's something there that is still um lingering that they need. I don't know if it's the energy or maybe it's the

32:4232 minutos e 42 segundosentrance from an inner earth civilization that is there like maybe the ant people or somebody else that is

32:5032 minutos e 50 segundospart of that. But there's something there that they use this energy and you know there's always energy that we don't

32:5832 minutos e 58 segundossee. There's always energy in the spiritual realm or um look at these ranches. Look there there's locations

33:0633 minutos e 6 segundosaround earth that when you go you know something is different. You know something is on. And people build

33:1433 minutos e 14 segundostemples around this. People build pyramids around these places that have this type of energy and they have more contact with ETSs or the ET tells them, hey, build here. This is a good spot.

33:2633 minutos e 26 segundosMaybe is a certain part of Earth that has a magnetic type of field that is good for the ships to recharge or to be

33:3633 minutos e 36 segundosmore connected because of the rock structure that is there. Uh, it's it could be a lot of things, but I think

33:4433 minutos e 44 segundosthis structure was built already in this facility that you're talking about Green Mountain. I totally believe that. I totally believe

33:5233 minutos e 52 segundosthat. I like I said, I think that Cherokee little You guys are talking about Green Mountain. [laughter] Hey, if people were down there long

34:0034 minutosbefore long long before um Columbus even came to this country.

34:0434 minutos e 4 segundosOh my god. When Dr. solid way on stage and talked about Green Mountain. I was like, "Oh, man. I'm going to get in

34:1134 minutos e 11 segundostrouble." But, you know, if it is Green Mountain, kudos. [laughter] It'll come out soon.

34:1834 minutos e 18 segundosAs you say, you're not saying it. We are.

34:2134 minutos e 21 segundosYou know, you guys are saying it, not me.

34:2434 minutos e 24 segundosSo, I I'll say it all day long. It's Green Mountain. Um, I want to I do want to discuss what you said about the the corporations and you know, you you got

34:3334 minutos e 33 segundosto wonder in the way things are going today, how long is it going to be before one corporation owns everything?

34:4634 minutos e 46 segundosYeah.

34:4734 minutos e 47 segundosYou know, and and that's the problem, you know.

34:5434 minutos e 54 segundosWell, I think uh that was what JP was kind of hinting at with the pictures of Ellen Musk and Mark Zuckerberg in terms

35:0235 minutos e 2 segundosof well, could we imagine in 5 10 years time that SpaceX and Meta become so big

35:1135 minutos e 11 segundosthat they control Yeah. all of the really important aspects of modern life at least in the

35:1935 minutos e 19 segundosin the in the United States, North America, Europe.

Capítulo 6: Future tech and disclosure

35:2635 minutos e 26 segundosUm, how can I put this?

35:3235 minutos e 32 segundosThere there's there's there's corporations, okay,

35:4035 minutos e 40 segundoson Earth, okay? You have the Earth realm, okay?

35:4435 minutos e 44 segundosOkay, you got the people on space. Okay. And then you got the this this is I think that's in

35:5335 minutos e 53 segundoscharge of all of this. And when you get into this, this is talking about interdimensional realm that is really in

36:0236 minutos e 2 segundoscharge of everything that we are going through. And I don't know what [clears throat] their corporations look like. I don't know what it manipulates

36:1136 minutos e 11 segundostime space uh frequencies if if whoever controls that

36:1936 minutos e 19 segundoswhoever or a person or whoever controls that the third interdimensional or that realm

36:2736 minutos e 27 segundosthat we don't see controls all the other ones. So it's that's the scary part about it. We don't know what's going on

36:3536 minutos e 35 segundosthere, but we try to connect. They try to connect with it. And

36:4236 minutos e 42 segundosI me personally, I don't think it's a uh I think if you're not right in the right mindset, you should not connect to

36:5036 minutos e 50 segundosit. When I say um it it's just other people that are so advanced that they don't want to even talk to us.

36:5936 minutos e 59 segundosThey see us as ants, you know? They they just live your life. We We are We are to them. We are.

37:0837 minutos e 8 segundosYeah. But I I think I think Yeah, we are. But they see us advancing so fast and they don't know why. But they see us

37:1637 minutos e 16 segundosadvancing like light speed and they're like saying, "What the heck is going on with these people? Like why they're advancing so fast?" And it's not because

37:2537 minutos e 25 segundosthe Nordics are connecting. It's our consciousness is changing so fast. uh we're catching up so fast in technology

37:3237 minutos e 32 segundosthat they're even scared. They're like, "Who are these people?" And and that's the thing I want people to understand that we have a potential that is so big

37:4037 minutos e 40 segundosin this universe that we were advanced before. And the these are there's other people that are

37:4737 minutos e 47 segundoswhen I say other people, others that they know what we carry in our DNA and they're trying to block us from advancing and we're just doing it

37:5537 minutos e 55 segundosregardless. And once we pass that, there's no way turning back. It is it is us in the universe. We're going to be in

38:0238 minutos e 2 segundoscharge of a lot of things in the universe when we like break that wall, when we break that glass.

38:1038 minutos e 10 segundosAnd that's what they're scared of.

38:1338 minutos e 13 segundosThey're trying to hold us here, but we are advancing so fast, Doc, that

38:2038 minutos e 20 segundoseverybody is in in in in the bubble of our universe are noticing us of what

38:2638 minutos e 26 segundoswe're becoming. And we have to use this for good and move our I sent you

38:3438 minutos e 34 segundossomething about Elon Musk. What he's creating this massive building that is going to be so advanced that is going to

38:4038 minutos e 40 segundosconnect us to to the galactic world, Galactic Federation. Why is that happening? Uh uh maybe I have it here.

38:5038 minutos e 50 segundosLet me show you real quick um for everybody to see. And I send it to Let me see. Yeah, look. Let me see.

38:5938 minutos e 59 segundosGot it here. I think I sent it to you.

39:0239 minutos e 2 segundosUh, let me see. So, that's Ellen Musk building this 100 million square feet.

39:1039 minutos e 10 segundosWhen you compare it to the entire Loben International Airport complex in Boston, one way and all, terrified of the

39:1939 minutos e 19 segundossingular building complex will be roughly 96% of Logan's total size. depth of more

39:2739 minutos e 27 segundosthan five times the size of China's this century global center in Chzu which

39:3339 minutos e 33 segundoscurrently holds the world record at 18.9 million square feet complete with its own tour beach and ski slope terra will

39:4339 minutos e 43 segundosbe bigger than the Pentagon Apple Park and the mall of America combined several signs over you could actually fit 15

39:5239 minutos e 52 segundospentagons inside this one it's 36 times the size of the Empire State Building's

39:5939 minutos e 59 segundosoffice footra and it's roughly 10 times the size of Tesla Island factory tapes which it still was

40:0740 minutos e 7 segundosI send you that video and and when I saw that and I saw and I remember seeing his picture

40:1440 minutos e 14 segundosin this facility I was like holy crap it's making sense

40:2140 minutos e 21 segundosyou know he he's building all this for a season and he's part of all this. You

40:2940 minutos e 29 segundosknow what we couple what couple months ago we saw him sitting with President Donald J. Trump, you know, fixing

40:3840 minutos e 38 segundoseverything up with the what's going on with the the money, you know. So, it it kind of makes a lot of sense that we're

40:4640 minutos e 46 segundosheading towards a future of the golden age, the Star Trek future, and it's going to connect all these facilities

40:5440 minutos e 54 segundostogether, not just um the facility you guys are talking about, but the world.

41:0341 minutos e 3 segundosWell, it sounds like Ellen Musk is very much developing this technocracy for the

41:1041 minutos e 10 segundosfuture. But uh how in what way does that is that at odds with this kind of like

41:1841 minutos e 18 segundosmastery of the eighth force that you're talking about, Michael?

41:2441 minutos e 24 segundosI think I think that uh what we need to do as a civilization is to be very weary

41:3141 minutos e 31 segundosgoing forward because there are forces out there that are right now trying to

41:3841 minutos e 38 segundosconvert the human being into a hive mind

41:4541 minutos e 45 segundosbeing. meaning chips in our brain that if they if they if

41:5341 minutos e 53 segundosthey if they're able to do something to take out say 80% of the population and

42:0042 minutosthe other 20% get chips and it's all fed with AI and everything else, we we we

42:0842 minutos e 8 segundosare at danger. We we are at a danger of becoming a hive mind society and I think we need to be careful going forward with

42:1642 minutos e 16 segundosthe technology the Borg. Yeah. Yep. We don't want that. The grays the grays are hive mind.

42:2542 minutos e 25 segundosYeah.

42:2642 minutos e 26 segundosAnd and there's a lot of theories that suggest that they're from that they're they're that's us from the future. the some the the small grays. The small

42:3442 minutos e 34 segundosgrays are are a hive of mine, but not the um the taller ones. Um I think they're more mechanical, the smaller grades.

42:4242 minutos e 42 segundosYeah, we have to be very careful cuz cuz right now, I mean, all look at all the kids today that with their phones in their face all the time being programmed

42:5042 minutos e 50 segundosby the AI and the algorithm, you know, this this is dangerous. It's dangerous territory. I I I believe I I believe I I believe it. I believe you know.

43:0243 minutos e 2 segundosYeah. But um sometimes our future is not set but like um

43:1043 minutos e 10 segundosI think technology is advancing fast like I said before and and the ETSs are seeing that that we're advancing really fast and I think some technology can be

43:1943 minutos e 19 segundosused as a tool if we if we give it out the right way. You know, we didn't have this um 10 years ago. we had to get

43:2743 minutos e 27 segundostogether in real life and make a a webinar and do something like this. Now, we have this technology that is helping us reach everybody that's here. And I'm

43:3543 minutos e 35 segundoshappy that everybody is here. Thank you for being here. It is a beautiful time that we're having. But technology is advancing. We have to learn how to use

43:4243 minutos e 42 segundosit the right way and not let other people use it to turn it into a weapon. That's the thing. We we we can't let people use

43:5143 minutos e 51 segundosthis technology and convert it into like a weapon type of technology that can take us into because we're Yeah. We

43:5943 minutos e 59 segundoswe're old school, man. We remember cassettes. We remember um boom box, you know, and yeah, we go to the beach with a boom box and that's it. And now now

44:0844 minutos e 8 segundosit's just technology is advancing so fast. It's it's just scary how we have to catch up with it.

44:1544 minutos e 15 segundosWe got to be careful. We have to Yeah, we do have to be careful, but we have to also uh cherish the technology in order to have the Star Trek future.

44:2544 minutos e 25 segundosI No, I I I agree. But we also have to keep our guards up for things like a hive mind

44:3244 minutos e 32 segundoshuman race is not what we want for our future.

44:3644 minutos e 36 segundosYeah. Yeah. We like if I had a technology that I could read my my wife's mind, I would love it.

44:4244 minutos e 42 segundos[laughter]

44:4244 minutos e 42 segundosWell, I don't want to I don't want to know what mine's thinking. No way. Don't worry.

44:4844 minutos e 48 segundosYou know what she loves. You know what she likes. Okay. Okay.

44:5244 minutos e 52 segundosHey, I wouldn't mind for a little bit, you know, just to see what she feels.

44:5644 minutos e 56 segundosI'd probably be shocked. [laughter] Okay. I just wanted to bring it back now to the Green Mountain. Who's in control

Capítulo 7: White hats and final thoughts

45:0545 minutos e 5 segundosof it? Now, both of you in different ways have said that the white hats are in control of it. Now, Michael, you mentioned white hats have been in

45:1345 minutos e 13 segundoscontrol since 2020. JP, you you were there. You were taken there in 2023,

45:1945 minutos e 19 segundos2024, and that's because the White Hats wanted you to see it and reveal it to the world.

45:2645 minutos e 26 segundosSo, both of you would agree that the White Hats are currently in control. So, who was in control before the White Hats

45:3445 minutos e 34 segundostook over? Was it Was it this German dark fleet? Who was in control of Green Mountain before it switched hands to the

45:4145 minutos e 41 segundosWhite Hats? Well, I'm not going to say Green Mountain, but uh Can I say the EU?

45:5045 minutos e 50 segundosThe EU? What do you mean by that? You're talking the European Cabal? Yeah, the Cabal.

45:5645 minutos e 56 segundosThe the the Rothschilds, the Cabal.

46:0146 minutos e 1 segundoWell, I I I believe these facilities were in charge of somebody else. Yeah, I think they were given to us.

46:1046 minutos e 10 segundosI think it could be connected to other people that live within Earth that had this facility and they made a deal

46:2046 minutos e 20 segundosum to give it to us and the Nordics were part of helping out to build this

46:2946 minutos e 29 segundosthis facility. And I think the Nordics uh could have been part of this

46:3746 minutos e 37 segundosfacility, but like I think before I think it was like a like a black hat type of agencies or whatever that were

46:4646 minutos e 46 segundosinvolved before and something happened in the 2000s that we took over these

46:5246 minutos e 52 segundosfacilities and we one by one we started taking over and um there was a lot of people that lost

47:0147 minutos e 1 segundotheir life trying to take over these facilities and going to war with these reptilian-like looking people that were

47:0947 minutos e 9 segundosin charge of these facilities that the black hats were in charge of working with them um with sacrifice demonic

47:1747 minutos e 17 segundosspiritual connections and this connects also to the Epstein things that they're finding and people eating people type of

47:2547 minutos e 25 segundosdeal. Um, and also I think it was part of the reptilians, but there there is I know people hate to hear this, but there

47:3447 minutos e 34 segundosis um you can't judge you can't judge a race because of what they do. You know, I

47:4147 minutos e 41 segundosthink there's um reptilians that are probably good. I'm not sure. And there's probably

47:4947 minutos e 49 segundosother ETs that are probably good as well, but I I don't want to go that route. But I think it was a war that we

47:5847 minutos e 58 segundoswon underground to to take over these facilities. And uh I don't think the war is the war is

48:0548 minutos e 5 segundosnot over yet. We we No, that's what's happening in Iran. And Iran is in Middle East is happening the same thing. We're trying to take over

48:1248 minutos e 12 segundosthese facilities under these massive cave systems that was similar to what we had here. And and people need to understand that what's happening behind

48:2148 minutos e 21 segundosthe scenes is they have these technology that if they if they let go this technology is going

48:2848 minutos e 28 segundosto is going to destroy the timeline like the it involves all that.

48:3548 minutos e 35 segundosSo Michael did Amy give you any kind of idea of who was previously in control before the white hats took over?

48:4648 minutos e 46 segundosNo, it's uh No, I mean we just I I always just assumed it was it was the it's the cabal whoever, you know,

48:5648 minutos e 56 segundoswhoever, you know. Okay.

49:0049 minutosWho who who who controlled it, you know, before them. You know, I you know, like you said, I I I believe the facility's probably been there for a long time.

49:0949 minutos e 9 segundosAll right, great. Well, I wanted to just kind of finish up with

49:1649 minutos e 16 segundosthis. Well, actually, before I ask any more questions, do either of you have questions either for me or for the other other presenter?

49:2449 minutos e 24 segundosWell, I have a question for Michael real quick. Uh, conflict radio. Michael,

49:3549 minutos e 35 segundosthe that that thing that you got the the pen drive, was it black with red?

49:4449 minutos e 44 segundosIt's it it's red is is red. It was a red drive. Was a red drive.

49:5249 minutos e 52 segundosA red drive with a silver stripe around it.

49:5749 minutos e 57 segundosNot too long ago, I got I got a drive. I'll show it to you. I I got it over there. It was left in my door. I don't know whose is it, but let me just go get it.

50:0950 minutos e 9 segundosYeah. Interesting. Interesting.

50:1350 minutos e 13 segundosHow about you, Michael? While JP is getting that, do you have any question or anything you want to kind of address?

50:2150 minutos e 21 segundos[clears throat]

50:2250 minutos e 22 segundosNo, I I I I think that I think that the danger of you know, you start talking about

50:3050 minutos e 30 segundosteleportation technology and dealing with um the ether as a power

50:3850 minutos e 38 segundossource and oh why why can't we come out public with this and you know why why is the public been hidden from you know why is this all been hidden from the public?

50:5050 minutos e 50 segundosIt gets into um yeah, you know when when you when you can literally

50:5850 minutos e 58 segundosteleport anything for a virus or anything anywhere that you know

51:0751 minutos e 7 segundosit who who has that who has the control over that type of technology? It's very dangerous.

51:1351 minutos e 13 segundosThis was left on my door. I haven't put it in my computer. I'm scared of viruses or anything.

51:1851 minutos e 18 segundosWell, the first thing you should do is um put it put it in a find you an old

51:2651 minutos e 26 segundoslaptop or an old desktop somewhere that has a Wi-Fi card in it you can remove so

51:3351 minutos e 33 segundosthat it it cannot be on the internet at all. Plug it into a computer that is not your normal computer. you know,

51:4251 minutos e 42 segundospick you up a a $50 laptop on Facebook Marketplace or something and plug it into that.

51:4951 minutos e 49 segundosYeah. I I've got an old computer JP that doesn't have a Wi-Fi connection. So, next time we meet, bring that and uh we'll connect it and see what's on there.

51:5951 minutos e 59 segundosOkay.

52:0052 minutosYeah. So, just remind me from what Amy was telling me, um, even if if if like this computer

52:0852 minutos e 8 segundosthat I'm on right now has Wi-Fi and I can turn my Wi-Fi off, but in reality,

52:1652 minutos e 16 segundosum, the powers that be still have access to my computer even though

52:2352 minutos e 23 segundosI turned it off. It's so you you have to if I wanted to eliminate that, I would have to remove the Wi-Fi card from my computer. You just can't turn it off.

52:3352 minutos e 33 segundosYou have to pull the co You have to pull the card out. Well, I want to thank you, Michael and JP, for being great

52:4152 minutos e 41 segundospanelists and presenters. You did both of you did awesome jobs. I was so impressed with your presentations.

52:4652 minutos e 46 segundosReally love it and hope we can uh do this again somewhere. So, thank you both of you. I also want to thank Jazz for

52:5452 minutos e 54 segundoshelping out with technical issues and with the the chat. And of course, I want to thank Angelica for hosting this,

53:0353 minutos e 3 segundoslooking after us, doing all the video switching and and being the the kind of like overall stage manager and really

53:1053 minutos e 10 segundosawesome. I'm very very blessed to have such a talented wife helping me at every step of the way. So, thank you,

53:1753 minutos e 17 segundosAngelica. And finally, I want to thank the audience. I mean guys, I mean if it wasn't for you, we wouldn't be here. I

53:2453 minutos e 24 segundosmean really uh in so many ways you uh you know your support means so much and I really appreciate all the support

53:3153 minutos e 31 segundosyou've given us you know given me given JP and now um Michael over the years really we are so blessed to have your

53:4053 minutos e 40 segundossupport. So thank you for your your love your interest and your support. Any final words from either of you?

53:4653 minutos e 46 segundosI I'll go I'll go next. Uh thank you guys for uh for having me. I really appreciate the opportunity to to talk about my experience and to talk about

53:5553 minutos e 55 segundoswhat I've learned and uh I look forward to talking about it more in the future.

53:5853 minutos e 58 segundosI I really do and uh I look forward to meeting you guys one day JP and and Michaela I've already met you but we'll I'll see you again and uh you know this

54:0754 minutos e 7 segundosis this is going to be you know this is important information and you know uh this is the first step one of the first steps and uh there's going to be a long

54:1554 minutos e 15 segundosway to go and I really appreciate you guys having me on. Thank you for this opportunity [music] to be here. Thank you for all the love that I felt. Um

54:2454 minutos e 24 segundosremember that you you [music] are special and we are special. We're here.

54:2854 minutos e 28 segundosWe're living here in the same world. And I really believe that all this [music] happens for a purp.

54:3954 minutos e 39 segundosLet's not sleep on this. Let us dream of this information. and let us fill this information [music] with love and care and that we know that

54:4754 minutos e 47 segundosthis information is going to come out soon. Okay, disclosure is [music] happening and we see it. Everybody's talking about it. Everybody's talking about things that are happening to them.

54:5654 minutos e 56 segundosWe got people that are coming out of the woodwork. That's the best thing about of it. Everybody's coming out now. And much love. Have that love frequency always.

55:0455 minutos e 4 segundosAnd Akurya mate, heaven to earth. Let's do it. Namaste.

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